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- Date: Fri, 3 Jun 94 07:30:35 PDT
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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #616
- To: Info-Hams
-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Fri, 3 Jun 94 Volume 94 : Issue 616
-
- Today's Topics:
- Alinco DJ180T mods?
- Bizarre QST Statemen (2 msgs)
- Cancun Repeaters
- Impedence of a car radio antenna
- Loop Antenna
- Periodic Announcement - ARRL Email Information Server (info@arrl.org)
- RE:Loop Antenna (2 msgs)
- RFI Tracked Down!!
- Schematic: Midland model 13-509 (220 mhz) [I have it]
- SSB Filters
-
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-
- Date: 31 MAY 94 08:48:46 CST
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!kuhub.cc.ukans.edu!news.umkc.edu!noc.nemostate.edu!ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Alinco DJ180T mods?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I hope this isn't a FAQ that I have just missed, but here goes
- anyway...
-
- Although I see many mods listed in various FTP sites for Alinco
- 160's and 162's, I never see any for the DJ180T. Are the mods the
- same for the 180 as for the 160? Where can I find mods for the
- 180? I have heard that one of the mods will make wideband recieve
- go even wider than the 130-174 range. Help!
-
- ------------------------------------------------------------------
- | |
- | James Scudder "What's a HAM anyway?" |
- | WB0RPS |
- | ae85%nemomus.bitnet@academic.nemostate.edu |
- | |
- ------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 31 May 94 16:02:00 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.duke.edu!duke!wolves!psybbs!1-151-160-0!Dave.Hockaday@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Bizarre QST Statemen
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SB>Greg said:
- SB>: Subject: Bizarre QST statement
- SB>: To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
- SB>: In June QST, there is an article on buying your first HF rig.
- SB>:
- SB>: However, the author makes a really bizarre statement:
- SB>: In talking about hybrid rigs, he instructs the neophyte to stay
- SB>: away from those which have sweep tubes in the final, and go only
- SB>: for those with 'real' transmitting tubes (6146, presumably).
- SB>: Pretty much narrows it down to 'Kenwood.'
- SB>: It lets out Drake 4-line, which he mentioned as an example, FT-101s,
- SB>: etc.
-
- SB>??????????
- SB>MY ft-101 has 6146's. Doesn't yours?
-
- The older Yaesu 101 b, e, ee, ex, have a pair of 6JS6C's (or something
- like that). The newer 101ZD has 6146's. The 901/902 also has 6146's...as
- do many of the heathkit rigs...not sure what else. I think there was a
- mod for the earlier Yaesu's to convert them to 6146's, too. 73 de WB4IUY
-
- ___
- X OLX 2.1 X No matter where you go, ...there you are...
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Jun 94 10:18:56 EDT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!udel!pacs.sunbelt.net!DDEPEW%CHM.TEC.SC.US@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Bizarre QST Statemen
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <828_9406022309@psybbs.durham.nc.us>, Dave.Hockaday@f160.n151.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Hockaday) writes:
- >SB>Greg said:
- >SB>: Subject: Bizarre QST statement
- >SB>: To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
- >SB>: In June QST, there is an article on buying your first HF rig.
- >SB>:
- >SB>: However, the author makes a really bizarre statement:
- >SB>: In talking about hybrid rigs, he instructs the neophyte to stay
- >SB>: away from those which have sweep tubes in the final, and go only
- >SB>: for those with 'real' transmitting tubes (6146, presumably).
- >SB>: Pretty much narrows it down to 'Kenwood.'
- >SB>: It lets out Drake 4-line, which he mentioned as an example, FT-101s,
- >SB>: etc.
- >
- >SB>??????????
- >SB>MY ft-101 has 6146's. Doesn't yours?
- >
- >The older Yaesu 101 b, e, ee, ex, have a pair of 6JS6C's (or something
- >like that). The newer 101ZD has 6146's. The 901/902 also has 6146's...as
- >do many of the heathkit rigs...not sure what else. I think there was a
- >mod for the earlier Yaesu's to convert them to 6146's, too. 73 de WB4IUY
- >
- >___
- > X OLX 2.1 X No matter where you go, ...there you are...
-
- If anyone knows about the mod to convert FT101 to 6146's I'd appreciate
- details. Please respond by e-mail. Thanks.
-
- Dorr Depew
- N4QIX
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Jun 94 08:19:06 -0600
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!atlas.tntech.edu!jmg@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Cancun Repeaters
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Anyone know of any current repeater frequencies in Cancun? I will be going
- there on Sunday.
-
- thanks
-
- 73
-
- Jeff, AC4HF
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Jun 1994 11:18:58 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!concert!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!portal.gmu.edu!mason1.gmu.edu!snkhan@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Impedence of a car radio antenna
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- What is the impedence of a normal car antenna in the US?
- I have to couple my amplifier circuit with the car antenna.
-
- Thanks.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 03 Jun 1994 00:53:09 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!witch!doghouse!jsalemi@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Loop Antenna
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
-
- In article <hawley.770585983@aries>, Chuck Hawley (hawley@aries.scs.uiuc.edu) writes:
- >What's the pattern of a small loop? How does it matter if you turn it
- >horizontal or vertical? Most of the ads show the AEA horizontal, and
- >the MFJ vertical.
- >
-
- Loops are strongest in the plane of the loop, and have a null
- perpendicular to the loop. Horizontal mounting makes it
- omnidirectional, and vertical gives you a null in two directions that's
- good for cutting down local noise sources.
-
- Since the loops primarily operate on the magnetic portion of the radio
- wave, it sometimes helps to try both orientations and see which is
- best for a particular location. This is especially true if the
- antenna is within 10-20 feet of a large mass of metal (metal roof,
- fence, etc).
-
- 73...joe
-
-
-
- ----------
- Joe Salemi, KR4CZ Internet: jsalemi@doghouse.win.net
- Compuserve: 72631,23 FidoNet: 1:109/136 MCI Mail: 433-3961
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 21:00:06 MDT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!psgrain!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!rec-radio-info@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Periodic Announcement - ARRL Email Information Server (info@arrl.org)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Periodic Announcement - ARRL Email Information Server (info@arrl.org)
-
- The services that the ARRL provides via the internet include the
- Email Information Server and the Technical Information Service.
- The Information Server is an automated mail server that gives you
- access to many of information files relating to various facets of
- Amateur Radio. You can retrieve any or all of these files by
- sending an email message to info@arrl.org here at ARRL HQ.
- Each file you request is then mailed to you automatically.
-
- To use it, mail messages to:
-
- info@arrl.org
-
- Each line of the message body should contain a command as shown below.
- The subject of your message is not processed and may be omitted. You
- may place as many commands in a message as you want. The files you
- request will be sent to you in separate messages. Only ASCII text
- files are supported.
-
- Valid INFO commands:
-
- reply <address> (may be needed - see below for explanation)
- help
- index
- send FILENAME (example: send prospect.txt)
- quit
-
- In the above message example, "help" retrieves a brief set of
- instructions for info, "index" retrieves a list of available files
- and "send prospect.txt" retrieves a text file containing information
- on becoming a radio amateur.
-
- Note to users with FTP capability: All of these files are also
- available by anonymous ftp to oak.oakland.edu in the
- pub/hamradio/arrl/infoserver area. Retrieve the file index.txt
- in the /league sub-directory for a complete listing of available
- files.
-
- If you want to retrieve several text files with one message, use a
- separate line for each "send filename" request.
-
- Your From: field or Reply-to: field in your header should contain a
- valid Internet address, including full domain name. If your From:
- field does not contain a valid Internet address, the answer will not
- reach you. If this is the case, then use the reply command as shown
- above. When needed, this command should always be the first command
- in your message.
-
- IMPORTANT: Please use the quit command in your message. This will
- prevent processing errors from message signatures.
-
- PLEASE NOTE!: This is an automated system not capable of handling
- written requests. Any questions on the info-server or the content
- of any of its files should be directed to mtracy@arrl.org.
-
- ALSO NOTE!: Do *NOT* reply to messages sent from info@arrl.org - the
- reply address is redirected to keep bounced messages from endlessly
- looping. Write a new message to info@arrl.org instead.
-
- The Technical Information Service gives League members on the
- internet better access to the knowledgeable technical staff here
- at ARRL HQ. Questions relating to Amateur Radio and related
- technical topics are welcome. To use this service, send a normal
- e-mail message to tis@arrl.org with your question spelled out in
- plain english. For best service, be as specific as possible and
- keep your line length in messages to a maximum of 80 characters.
- Due to personnel limitations, priority will be given to questions
- from League members.
-
- Best Regards,
-
- Michael Tracy, KC1SX, ARRL Technical Information Services Coordinator
- (e-mail mtracy@arrl.org)
-
-
- Sample of files available from INFO: (There are lots more!)
-
- Note - If you are not yet an Amateur Radio operator retrieve the
- file prospect (send prospect) for information on how to easily get
- started in this fun hobby.
-
- FILENAME SIZE DATE DESCRIPTION
- ---------------- ---- ------ --------------------
- PROSPECT.TXT 2k 930514 How to get your Amateur Radio license
- EXAMS.TXT 52k 930629 Current exam schedule info - updated bi-weekly
- EXAMINFO.TXT 9k 921020 Examinations - what to bring - requirements
- USERS.TXT 6k 930119 List of HQ Email addresses
- ARRLCAT.TXT 39k 930709 Catalog of ARRL Publications - commercial content
- JOIN.TXT 2k 930621 How become an ARRL member
- SERVICES.TXT 5k 930621 A condensed list of ARRL membership services
- TOUR.TXT 28k 930621 An electronic tour of ARRL Headquarters
- DIR.HQ 5k 930310 Visiting ARRL HQ - diretions and tour information
- HFBANDS 7k 921203 Breakdown of users of HF spectrum
- Q-SIGS 1k 921203 ARRL list of Amateur Radio Q-signals
- W1AW.SKD 2k 930120 W1AW schedule of transmissions and operation
- PRODREV1.TXT 12k 930227 Which rig is best? Part 1 - QST Lab Notes
- PRODREV2.TXT 22k 930227 Which rig is best? Part 2 - QST Lab Notes
- !LIST.TXT 6k 931120 QST Bibliographies List
- RFIGEN.TXT 37k 930120 How to solve an EMI/RFI problem - QST Lab Notes
- RFISOURC.TXT 13k 930607 Where to buy filters - EMI-proof telephones etc.
- ADDRESS.TXT 16k 930318 Lots and lots of ham/electonic company addresses
- KITS.TXT 6k 930430 List of companies that sell kits
- BBS.TXT 12k 930601 List of ham-radio land-line bulletin boards
- FAQ1.TXT 25k 930707 Introduction to the FAQ and Amateur Radio
- FAQ2.TXT 45k 930707 Amateur Radio Orgs, Services and Info Sources
- FAQ3.TXT 32k 930707 Amateur Radio Advanced and Technical Questions
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
- American Radio Relay League, Inc. Tel: 1-203-666-1541
- 225 Main Street Fax: 1-203-665-7531
- Newington, CT 06111 Email: mtracy@arrl.org
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 03 Jun 1994 00:45:38 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!witch!doghouse!jsalemi@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: RE:Loop Antenna
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
-
- In article <19940602121903CSMSCST@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>, Chris Thomas (CSMSCST@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU) writes:
- >Gee, I guess the 240 (confirmed) countrires that I've gotten with my
- >small loop and 150w in the last 3 yrs don't count ...
- >
-
- Not to mention that even a dummy load can radiate enough power for a
- QSO. ANY antenna will radiate power, no matter how small, so long as
- its properly matched to the rig. Anyone who doubts it should read
- Maxwell's excellent book "Reflections," or any of Kurt Sturba's
- columns in World Radio.
-
- 73...joe
-
-
-
- ----------
- Joe Salemi, KR4CZ Internet: jsalemi@doghouse.win.net
- Compuserve: 72631,23 FidoNet: 1:109/136 MCI Mail: 433-3961
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 03 Jun 1994 00:49:17 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!witch!doghouse!jsalemi@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: RE:Loop Antenna
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
-
- In article <1994Jun2.175404.6920@news.vanderbilt.edu>, PFEIFFEM_1 (PFEIFFEM@ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu) writes:
- >Tom,
- > Just don't forget that any compact antenna will NEVER outperform a fullsized
- >antenna. You MAY get the antenna to accept power but that's where it will
- >stay! Just a dummy load in the air!!
- > The periodicals are great about telling you just how much fun you can have
- >building small and cheap but thay don't say just how it compares to the real
- >thing.
-
- Even a small loop antenna is "the real thing." It may not have the
- efficiency of a full-size antenna, but it WILL radiate a signal. For
- that matter, so will a dummy load. Any antenna that can be properly
- matched will radiate a signal.
-
- I suggest you pick up a copy of Maxwell's "Reflections" and check it
- out.
-
- 73...joe
-
-
-
- ----------
- Joe Salemi, KR4CZ Internet: jsalemi@doghouse.win.net
- Compuserve: 72631,23 FidoNet: 1:109/136 MCI Mail: 433-3961
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Jun 94 05:55:14 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: RFI Tracked Down!!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I want to second Chuck Adams' exasperation with the Panasonic answering machine.
- I've got one of these little QRP rigs; mine radiates at about 28.360, as well.
- This is not the kind of 10m activity I'm looking for these days !
-
- Panasonic, are you listening?? WE are !
-
- /***
- Gary W. Thorburn gthorbur@ub.com KD1TE
- ***/
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Jun 94 12:49:20 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Schematic: Midland model 13-509 (220 mhz) [I have it]
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Date sent: 3-JUN-1994 07:47:27
-
- I have misplaced the posting re Midland 220 mhz and the fellow who wanted
- the schematic...I know the model is slightly different, but if you read
- this and if you want a copy of the schematic for the 13-509, then email to
- me as below and I will send it to you.
- ..Darrell
-
- Darrell Leavitt
- ESC/SUNY Plattsburgh,NY
- leavitdg@snyplava.bitnet
- leavitdg@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
- n2ixl@amgate.net.plattsburgh.edu
- n2ixl@kd2aj.#neny.ny.usa.na
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 31 May 94 16:12:02 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.duke.edu!duke!wolves!psybbs!1-151-160-0!Dave.Hockaday@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: SSB Filters
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- DS>France, C.E.P.E. part of Thomson-CSF. I've got one in front of me
- DS>now, but no address.
-
- Hi David!! Do you know a phone number or adress for Thomson-CSF?? I
- recently acquired a bunch of 900 mhz early cell phone cell site
- equipment and would like to get manuals. I wish to convert it to 900 mhz
- amateur operation, maybe repeating (since I have duplexers), and for
- linking repeaters in a local system. Any help would be appreciated. 73
- de WB4IUY
-
- ___
- X OLX 2.1 X 902-928 mhz...Use it or lose it!!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Jun 1994 05:48:17 -0500
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!news.uh.edu!uuneo.neosoft.com!sugar.NeoSoft.COM!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1994Jun1.185836.26274@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <2skp70$qbc@tymix.Tymnet.COM>, <1994Jun3.012445.4308@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>┼
- Subject : Re: 440 in So. Cal.
-
- In article <1994Jun3.012445.4308@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>,
- Gary Coffman <gary@ke4zv.UUCP> wrote:
-
- >Closed repeaters don't serve the amateur community at large
- >as well as open systems, so as a policy matter, open repeaters should
- >be the preferred occupants of the spectrum.
-
- This is your opinion. I respect it. I also disagree with it. If a repeater
- serves 200 users, what difference does it make if those 200 users pay dues to
- a closed system or just showed up on an open one?
-
- The point here is: Is the frequency being used? If so, what difference does it
- make of the system is closed? If the frequency isn't being used, then the fact
- that the radio is closed or open again makes no difference.
-
- There are open systems in Houston which get little or no use. Certainly much
- less use than my closed system. Am I to be declared "less worthy" even though
- my radio is used more? That dog won't hunt.
-
-
- --
- Jim Reese, WD5IYT | "Real Texans don't let the truth get in
- jreese@sugar.neosoft.com | the way of a good story."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Jun 1994 14:12:29 GMT
- From: tymix.Tymnet.COM!niagara!flanagan@uunet.uu.net
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1994May30.111450.24376@cs.brown.edu>, <1994Jun1.002342.4409@pb2esac.com>, <1994Jun2.160404.28172@llyene.jpl.nasa.gov>│π
- Subject : Re: 440 in So. Cal.
-
- In article <1994Jun2.160404.28172@llyene.jpl.nasa.gov> laborde@kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Greg LaBorde (525)) writes:
- >In article <1994Jun1.002342.4409@pb2esac.com>,
- >>We were told in rather curt terms that no-code techs were not welcome there.
-
- >I daresay you will _NOT_ be welcomed there after an insulting post like this.
-
- Sounds like a real friendly place!
-
- Dick
- --
- Dick Flanagan, W6OLD w6old@n6qmy.#nocal.ca.usa.na
- dick@libelle.com CIS:73672,751 GEnie:FLANAGAN
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Jun 1994 14:07:33 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!wizard.uark.edu!comp!plaws@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CqMJn8.GBp@news.ci.ua.pt>, <CqMrwr.IKJ@news.ci.ua.pt>, <2slije$2hp@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>du
- Subject : Re: LOOKING FOR CLUB STATIONS
-
- fuat@tintin.cc.columbia.edu (Fuat C. Baran) writes:
-
- >Another data point:
- >Columbia University Amateur Radio Club (W2AEE).
- >Email to: cuarc@columbia.edu (or w2aee@columbia.edu)
- >WWW URL: http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~fuat/cuarc/
-
-
- Cool. Now subscribe to HAM-UNIV. (mail listserv@njitgw.njit.edu with
- SUBSCRIBE HAM-UNIV <your name> in the body)
-
- If you want the N2TIQ's definitive list of University Club stations, ftp
- to oak.oakland.edu and look in /pub/hamradio/docs/misc. The file is
- ham.faq.univ_Version_.04b.txt (Jeff must have a Mac judging from that
- filename :)
-
- 73,
- Peter Laws, N5UWY - V31WY
-
- President,
- Amateur Radio Club,
- University of Arkansas / W5YM
-
- Peter Laws <plaws@comp.uark.edu> |"Let's make sure history never forgets the
- n5uwy@ka5bml.#nwar.ar.usa.noam | name ... Enterprise" ST:TNG - 1987-1994
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 12:44:32 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!greg@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2shtbu$d8o@sugar.NeoSoft.COM>, <rogjdCqq72H.6u4@netcom.com>, <2slc6j$kkn@sugar.NeoSoft.COM>
- Subject : Re: 440 in So. Cal.
-
- In article <2slc6j$kkn@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> jreese@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Jim Reese) writes:
- >
- >That's not what I said. The frequency coordinator must serve both the trustees
- >of open and closed repeaters, as well as balancing this with the needs of those
- >who want to put on new repeaters. If the frequency is already occupied, it
- >makes absolutely no difference whether the system is open or closed. This
- >frequency is occupied. Period. A coordinator can't let himself judge who is
- >"more worthy" of a frequency. An attitude like this is guaranteed to get him
- >sued.
-
- Perhaps. However a significant number of amateurs believe that the 'closed'
- repeater is contrary to the principle that no individual or group 'owns'
- a frequency.
-
- Those of us who feel this way 'tolerate' closed repeaters in the spectrum
- where there is plenty of available space, on the premise that no harm is
- done.
-
- However, in areas where spectrum is becoming critical, we believe that the
- band plan should dictate that OPEN repeaters have priority, sometimes to the
- extent that even existing closed sites are offered the option of either
- opening up or giving up the allocation. And we also believe that the
- 'band plan,' as developed by local and national organized Amateur Radio
- groups has sufficient authority to dictate fair spectrum usage.
-
- We believe that groups that put up closed repeaters must make this trade
- off... ...that that is the price of exclusivity. Presumably, however, the
- greater occupancy should offer them a better market for sale of the old
- 'machine,' should they have to move to 1.2Ghz.
-
- The 'closed' repeater has been the counter-example to the 'no-one owns
- a frequency' principle which has guided amateur radio for its entire
- existence. I see no reason to turn away from the older principle in order
- to keep the price of exclusivity low.
-
- Greg
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Jun 1994 05:01:42 -0600
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx10.cs.du.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <rogjdCqpCto.6B6@netcom.com>, <2si4ff$q06@tymix.tymnet.com>, <2sid20$379@btree.brooktree.com>
- Subject : Re: 440 in So. Cal.
-
- In article <2sid20$379@btree.brooktree.com>,
- Roger Bly <roger@btree.brooktree.com> wrote:
- >That's a moot point.
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- Fairness is never moot. Changing the rules and destroying people's investments
- is never fair.
-
- > 400 as a haven for closed systems was acceptable as late
- >as 1979 when I first ventured up there, but its not acceptable any more!
- >We have to adapt to the greater good.
-
- Da, comrade. From each according to his abilities, to each according to his
- needs.
-
- Jammed any repeaters lately?
- --
- Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
- jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu | adequately be explained by stupidity.
- To Sarah Brady, Howard Metzenbaum, Dianne Feinstein, and Charles Schumer:
- Thanks. Without you, I would be neither a gun owner nor an NRA life member.
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